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B.B. : I dunno Do you believe in the evolution of human consciousness?

Do you believe in the evolution of human consciousness?

Posted on Jul 18th, 2008 by B.B. : I dunno B.B.
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for July 18, 2008:

Nope same as it ever was


That said I feel that as time goes by I grow into myself not so much an evolution as a finding of one's way home
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tara : sp@ce
20 minutes later
tara said


I once had a boyfriend who danced like that & I feel that too with the odd hair on occasion ;-)

maze : ordinary
37 minutes later
maze said

love the song. good start for my morning.

B.B. : I dunno
about 1 hour later
B.B. said

I dated him too ;-) finally it was his roving eye and not his dancing that set me free as in please don't let the door smack you're bony ass on the way out but in a real gentle 'enlightened' way

I saw them in concert omg,25 yrs ago they opened for the police,there was also Stevie Ray Vaughn and Peter Tosh.
 I spent the concert stoned and on the shoulders of a guy who later went from being a guy to that asshole to Nico's dad,to hey you how are ya. 
 Life same as it ever was

tara : sp@ce
about 1 hour later
tara said


HARH!  big coffee snorting mo here.. don't be funny when I'm drinking :-)
I'm all for the gentle 'enlightened' way as in adding a pleez to the husj husj, out of me wigwam& asking politely whether he'd prefer to carry his stuff before I go hurl it out the window tsk. 

I love talking heads too, 23 yrs ago I saw them. In Berlin. Don't recall much though, the scotch over on the east side of town was r e a l l y cheap..shee, that's when the wall was still up. fuck I'm getting old & aging rapidly as we speak.

B.B. : I dunno
about 2 hours later
B.B. said

OMG scotch…don't get me going on scotch which BTW kept me going through some pretty rough times.
Haven't had one in years,sounds good about now,where exactly do you live and can I walk there ;-)

tara : sp@ce
about 2 hours later
tara said

bridget edited…& my joke 'bout the ingrown hair fell flat on it's nose. bridget naughty now.

I live in the middle of the island in the middle.. & for yr paws not to get worn out & me keeling over cuz I haven't had one in yrs either, we might make it a virtual one, huh? ;-)

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 2 hours later
Dave said

I can only share that I am loving the experience of 'listening'  to you two.  I've never had a boyfriend, or sat on a guy's shoulders at a concert.  Not a conscious experience I see in my future either. 

I'd only offer, had men not taken you down their cro-magnon path, you'd not be needing to find your way home!

B.B. : I dunno
about 2 hours later
B.B. said

Tara so many jokes are over my head…so many, I become the joke lol I am a pretty good swimmer for about 10 minutes. It's further than ten minutes right ;-)  Virtual scotch it is !


My my Dave how is it that you only show yourself with a bit of contention…this not bad just strange in your Dave kinda way.
You are always welcome here BTW i wonder if maybe you feel you are not and this is why you seem prickly at times esp when defending the male population when we bash them around a ,little.
BTW I've loved/fucked women too,it is one of those amazing flukes that I fell in love with my husband,I do believe his sex had nothing to do with it,but rather his soul,energy,being whatever you want to call it.
Oh yeah someone's sex is really of little relevance in the scheme of things for me,if you read my other blogs or got to know me you'd know this.
Dave why so prickly

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 3 hours later
Dave said

wow  B.B…  I better go back to school to re-edgimicate myself about writing.  Other than kidding, I was totally dissing men in support of women.

I don't have a prickle in me… I've been having a lot of fun since getting up this morning.


D

B.B. : I dunno
about 3 hours later
B.B. said

So I guess I'm the one whose stopped the fun ;-)
Nah Dave perhaps I didn't read what you wrote 
“Not a conscious experience I see in my future either”.  Um Why?
I'd only offer, had men not taken you down their cro-magnon path, you'd not be needing to find your way home! Umm really?
I quite imagine if the world was populated by just me  ( as i know it turns around me) ;-0
it would still be the same. Evoloution of conciousness hmmmmm it's not so much about evolving but more like happening upon something that is already there. Like my spell check which is there but not working for some reason.
 

tara : sp@ce
about 5 hours later
tara said


WTF?  when did cro-magnon become exclusively male & if so, where do I go to reapply whilst soaking miss clit in fertilizer? ..I may be kind of shortish & only female, but I am european & human for crying out loud! ('o')

& melady b, I'm with ya on the gender thang.. waay overrated imho & btw I have yet to meet a male that did not appreciate a lil smack in the butt.. (psst…how many men before one is allowed to generalize?)

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 5 hours later
Dave said

As I said… all kidding and meant in humor…

B.B. : I dunno
about 5 hours later
B.B. said

The number varies with the importance of the statement and how many people will actually call it on it's varacity


Well maybe we should give Dave a spanking then 


Dave you there?

tara : sp@ce
about 5 hours later
tara said

he he.. I'll just go with my hunch then for now.

& maybe we should..alas I'm not inclined to get the whip out unless aroused or amused,
so, what's the joke Dave?

B.B. : I dunno
about 6 hours later
B.B. said

We're waiting…… Dave are you there?  Reading back what I said I'm prickly too…you know what we should all go to a concert and I'll let you sit on my shoulders….and instead of talking cro magnon we'll share a magnum virtual one and talk about humor and how 'special' each of ours is ;-)

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 9 hours later
Dave said

I am here. I have no interest in being bisexual because sex just twice a year is insane.  :-)

tara : sp@ce
about 10 hours later
tara said


how would you know if you never had sex with a man? And really, Dave, stop insulting our intellects & explain the joke, will ya?

it's nice that you like to listen in on us two, but I listen to you too & what I hear, is that you're saying that if the cro-magnon male aka the modern human had not lead women down their path aka bonking them, we ( as in women) would still be neanderthals. If you are indeed telling a different tale, please do elaborate instead of attempting to get out of this one by being corny.

B.B. : I dunno
about 11 hours later
B.B. said

I'm at a loss for blog words I want my mom and toto and some chicken soup.
Dave you are funny and smart and at times prickly and I feel like I can say this bc I am too….prickly that is,although i like to think i'm funny too but maybe not I do appear to laugh alone often;-0
I might have read too much into your words and this can happen when you are me.
I've thought long about today bc i do not like the way I responded to you it is not very Zaadz like I mean this. the thing i most like about the place is the opposite of what I did. And for that I've been thinking how could i have approached this in a better fashion and here it is.

The comment I should have made:
The next time you go to a concert you can sit on my shoulders
We can behave like neanderthals for a bit.
laugh at how funny life is and share jokes we can both laugh at.
Now I'm off to your blog Dave to leave a comment cuz todays was nice.
p.s. I'm not bi-sexual I'm just me


OMG edit too Tara I heart you sooo much it almost hurts,but in a good way  



Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 12 hours later
Dave said

penultimately whacked thread… it's like being on a date with Cybil.. lol.. love it! 


Since we are all homo-sapiens… it's fair to say we've transcended our cro magnon and neandrethal urges… so.. bi bi.. we'll see ya on the flip side… :-)

D

tara : sp@ce
about 12 hours later
tara said

i'm beginning to wonder whether it is just the thread that is wacked & we are indeed all homo -sapiens, which is why I'm wondering what you meant by saying:  'I'd only offer, had men not taken you down their cro-magnon path, you'd not be needing to find your way home!'

if you think that the word 'men' is a suitable word for all of homo-sapiens, why don't you just say that instead of running off in the attempt to appear all aloof.. & who the fuck is cybil?

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 12 hours later
Dave said

ok… here is what I meant… as if you didn't know Tara… “-”

I have an overwhelming respect for the balance of body, mind and soul that women possess relative to the testosterone laden, intellectually inferior male.   IMHO, the consciousness of women is much closer to true self than the majority of men, because women are not playing the dominance game.. which shifts men away from the journey of self to the mission of control. 

That being said.. this thread has me thinking otherwise… lmfao…

Cybil … psychzophrenic with 13 personalities… made a movie of her with Sally Fields as Cybil..

B.B. : I dunno
about 12 hours later
B.B. said

Deep breath everyone,including me time to settle in for the evening. 

and here's a little gem just in case we forget that it's all about the ego sometimes 

tara : sp@ce
about 13 hours later
tara said


No, I don't know what you meant with the joke Dave. I know what I interpreted yr words as meaning, which is why I ask you to explain, knowing that interpretations could very well be far from the intent.

& great! that this thread is causing you to rethink yr preconcieved notions about women..

& yes, I know that cybil, read the book.. how was I to know that you went on a date with her?

Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 15 hours later
Dave said

[Tara] & great! that this thread is causing you to rethink yr preconcieved notions about women..

This thread has done nothing to rethink my notions about women… it's just caused me to rethink my notions about contributing to this thread…

Women have been subjected to control by men for centuries…and I abhor that… that is all I was communicating…. that I honor and love the spiritual wisdom of women in comparison to many men who use control… over empowerment.

If that is orthogonal to your views, I appreciate that, but do not apologize for what I feel…

See ya around Gaia

Enlightened.thinker : Light-plerker
about 17 hours later
Enlightened.thinker said

Is this a private party, or is everyone invited? LOL!

buddhababe : Light Dancer
about 18 hours later
buddhababe said

Poor Dave!  I think I got you Dave from the first thread.  It's amazing how the linguistics of blog-talk can totally get taken the wrong way. 

Is my translation correct Dave?  - If MEN and the control that men had over women for centruries had not been so “Cro-Magnon” - (i.e. beat their sticks over our head and drag us around), then us WOMEN would never have had to heal ourselves from the centuries of oppression in the first place.

I think however this entire thread just proved that human consciousness is NOT evolving.

tara : sp@ce
about 22 hours later
tara said


Dave, it saddens me somewhat to experience yr responses focusing on me personally, rather than simply explaining what the joke was in the first place, which is all I was after to begin with. That said, it doesn't bother me one bit & does'nt intimidate me either as you may have noticed by now. Not all women don't play the dominance game by simply being submissive when facing males mission to control.  And yes, my engagement in this is a very conscious choice as it is not the first time I have experienced underlying implications in your words in regard to gender & sexuality.

I read you as an intelligent person with access to a large vocabulary & knowledge. In every other discussion I have read with your participation, I've observed yr eloquence & attention to detail whilst phrasing.  Based on that, I've concluded that you are indeed very well aware of what you are saying.

The attempts to evade my simple question with sarcasm, has not gone unnoticed. And implying that I do indeed know what you mean, doesn't get you off the hook either. It just
tells me that you are not reading my words from a place of respect & with a motivation for us to communicate in a constructive way.


buddhababe, maybe you have more luck as to getting a response.  To clarify my view & interpretation, i'll say that to me the cro-magnon MAN is the first modern human in europe as opposed to the earlier neanderthaler. My enquiry into an explanation originated from a wondering about the relevance of Dave's comment in the first place. I've explained that in detail further up the thread.

I agree with you that human conscioussness is not evolving & I disagree that this thread is a proof to that. To me human conscioussness is a constant factor, what might evolve is our awareness & or ability to tap into that conscioussness. One way to do that, is by communicating with oneself & others from the heart in a objective, transparent & authentic way. I believe us humans have a lot going for us & a long way to go yet, to get there..

B.B. : I dunno
about 23 hours later
B.B. said

Aley you are welcome at any party but you might want to skip this one ;-)


Buddababe yup. 


Dave,it's me Cybil hmmmm, I was sorta aiming for the blog to finish at the video. As I said earlier I wasn't comfortable in my response I felt that had i have just responded compassionately or in a manner more like me (although this is a side of me too) none of this might have happened…all the ego stuff and bringing out sides to people that are not our purty sides…but nonetheless it's happened and I'm not deleting it bc it will remain a reminder to mind what I say,and think about what letting my feelings get in the way can do.
I must ask myself Dave why it is that at times you say things and I read something else into it. This is not the first time it has happened. It rarely happens with anyone else,perhaps I will write you a letter and try to get to know you better so I can address this since I don't feel as if it is fair to you or me. 



Tara well it's morning…afternoon there I'm spent just writing this response since the machine ate the first response  grrrrrrr let's go look at todays Q&R hmmm.






Dave : myworldpeacenik
about 24 hours later
Dave said

buddhababe… yup… 100%… you have said it much better than I.  Thank you thank you thank you….


B.B.  Thank you for being so honest, and I really appreciate that you took the time to circle back wondering how we may have missed each other the first time.  I would like to get to know you better too.  It's kinda funny what I learned through this thread too.  You see, I write children's books… stories about love, and the special gift each of us has inside of us.  I try very hard, in everything I say and do, to be an expression of love.   For me… I find no value in being anything else … although admittedly, I certainly ain't no saint!     I do enjoy writing, and wonder if my style comes across to you as arrogant or something?  It would be fun to explore that.


My dear friend Tara - to you I apologize deeply.  Given how often we have shared words all over Gaia, and how 'penultimately' synched we always are, I have assumed, (quite incorrectly), that you and I were totally in sync through this entire thread.  Although you clearly challenged me a few times, I honestly felt you were playfully chiding me… rather than expressing real concern or frustration over the meaning of my words.  I thank buddhababe for expressing what I intended to say so clearly… because it is only with love and affection that I shared each and every word here.  I am sorry that I did not stop and seriously 'listen' to what you were sharing, and for the frustration that resulted in.  I am very sorry.

I feel like such a neandrethal! 

I'll be heading to Q&R too.. let's see what today's question brings us… see you there!

C.G. : Sacred Vow
about 24 hours later
C.G. said

finding our way back home…bravo
….that was some concert, Police, Stevie Ray, et al….little bit of differing styles, but all nice
blessings and a joyous weekend, B.B,

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